installation scsi system impossible

Hi, all
I am not able to make a fresh Installation of build 5308 on an SCSI-system with an Adaptec AHA2940U2W. No devices found!!
Is this a driver problem? Will a suited driver be supplied in final Vista release? On Adaptec Website I could not find anything about this issue.
So how to proceed?
I do not understand this problem, because on virtual maschines, there seems not to be a problem using SCSI Controllers.
Thank you for your help,
Peter

Sounds like a driver compatibility with Vista. Have you contacted Adaptec to find out about their Vista strategy if they plan on at least releasing beta drivers for existing devices or at least the final build of Windows Vista? Also find out if they are working with Microsoft on hardware detection and if this will be available in a future build of Windows Vista. -- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
"Peter Danner" wrote in message

Hi, all
I am not able to make a fresh Installation of build 5308 on an SCSI-system with an Adaptec AHA2940U2W. No devices found!!
Is this a driver problem? Will a suited driver be supplied in final Vista release? On Adaptec Website I could not find anything about this issue.
So how to proceed?
I do not understand this problem, because on virtual maschines, there seems not to be a problem using SCSI Controllers.
Thank you for your help,
Peter

LOL Andre, you know what they'll end up saying... "We cannot provide information about software before the release date"... seems to be the number 1 line from manufacturers at the moment ;o)
-- Zack Whittaker Microsoft Beta (Windows Server R2 Beta Mentor) » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: http://msblog.resdev.net » ZackNET Forum: www.zacknet.co.uk/forum » VistaBase: www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that one!
--- Original message follows --- "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message

Sounds like a driver compatibility with Vista. Have you contacted Adaptec to find out about their Vista strategy if they plan on at least releasing beta drivers for existing devices or at least the final build of Windows Vista? Also find out if they are working with Microsoft on hardware detection and if this will be available in a future build of Windows Vista. -- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
"Peter Danner" wrote in message Hi, all
I am not able to make a fresh Installation of build 5308 on an SCSI-system with an Adaptec AHA2940U2W. No devices found!!
Is this a driver problem? Will a suited driver be supplied in final Vista release? On Adaptec Website I could not find anything about this issue.
So how to proceed?
I do not understand this problem, because on virtual maschines, there seems not to be a problem using SCSI Controllers.
Thank you for your help,
Peter

Perhaps, but customers asking may get them working on it. And since the hardware manufacturers are responsible for drivers, contacting them is the correct start.
-- Jupiter Jones [MVP] http://www3.telus.net/dandemar http://www.dts-l.org
"Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" wrote in message

LOL Andre, you know what they'll end up saying... "We cannot provide information about software before the release date"... seems to be the number 1 line from manufacturers at the moment ;o)
-- Zack Whittaker Microsoft Beta (Windows Server R2 Beta Mentor) » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: http://msblog.resdev.net » ZackNET Forum: www.zacknet.co.uk/forum » VistaBase: www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that one!
--- Original message follows --- "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message Sounds like a driver compatibility with Vista. Have you contacted Adaptec to find out about their Vista strategy if they plan on at least releasing beta drivers for existing devices or at least the final build of Windows Vista? Also find out if they are working with Microsoft on hardware detection and if this will be available in a future build of Windows Vista. -- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm

Manufacturers should by default be keeping up with the latest stuff... otherwise they lose profits don't they.
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--- Original message follows --- "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote in message

Perhaps, but customers asking may get them working on it. And since the hardware manufacturers are responsible for drivers, contacting them is the correct start.
-- Jupiter Jones [MVP] http://www3.telus.net/dandemar http://www.dts-l.org
"Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" wrote in message LOL Andre, you know what they'll end up saying... "We cannot provide information about software before the release date"... seems to be the number 1 line from manufacturers at the moment ;o)
-- Zack Whittaker Microsoft Beta (Windows Server R2 Beta Mentor) » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: http://msblog.resdev.net » ZackNET Forum: www.zacknet.co.uk/forum » VistaBase: www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that one!
--- Original message follows --- "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message Sounds like a driver compatibility with Vista. Have you contacted Adaptec to find out about their Vista strategy if they plan on at least releasing beta drivers for existing devices or at least the final build of Windows Vista? Also find out if they are working with Microsoft on hardware detection and if this will be available in a future build of Windows Vista. -- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm

Zack; Yes, they need to keep up. But don't confuse keeping up with always issuing new drivers when a new OS is released. They need to decide which products to dedicate resources. The older a product the less chance an update will make them $. More resources will be spent on newer products and those in development. Since this is usually capitalism, often with older hardware there is little reason to make it work with a newer OS.
-- Jupiter Jones [MVP] http://www3.telus.net/dandemar http://www.dts-l.org
"Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" wrote in message

Manufacturers should by default be keeping up with the latest stuff... otherwise they lose profits don't they.
-- Zack Whittaker Microsoft Beta (Windows Server R2 Beta Mentor) » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: http://msblog.resdev.net » ZackNET Forum: www.zacknet.co.uk/forum » VistaBase: www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that one!
--- Original message follows --- "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote in message Perhaps, but customers asking may get them working on it. And since the hardware manufacturers are responsible for drivers, contacting them is the correct start.
-- Jupiter Jones [MVP] http://www3.telus.net/dandemar http://www.dts-l.org
"Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" wrote in message LOL Andre, you know what they'll end up saying... "We cannot provide information about software before the release date"... seems to be the number 1 line from manufacturers at the moment ;o)
-- Zack Whittaker Microsoft Beta (Windows Server R2 Beta Mentor) » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: http://msblog.resdev.net » ZackNET Forum: www.zacknet.co.uk/forum » VistaBase: www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that one!
--- Original message follows --- "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message Sounds like a driver compatibility with Vista. Have you contacted Adaptec to find out about their Vista strategy if they plan on at least releasing beta drivers for existing devices or at least the final build of Windows Vista? Also find out if they are working with Microsoft on hardware detection and if this will be available in a future build of Windows Vista. -- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm

Sometimes I get the feeling that there is a conspiracy amongst manufacturers to not provide drivers for older devices thereby forcing people to go out and buy the latest and greatest device and all in the name of profit..... ;)
Then again, I do get rather annoyed with the expectation that people should go out and buy new products to replace old ones that are working perfectly. Such a waste of resources really. Welcome to the throw-away society. :(

Correct. But of course, you have to take into account that they love to put end of life support on such products just to get existing users to upgrade to the latest. -- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote in message

Perhaps, but customers asking may get them working on it. And since the hardware manufacturers are responsible for drivers, contacting them is the correct start.
-- Jupiter Jones [MVP] http://www3.telus.net/dandemar http://www.dts-l.org
"Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" wrote in message LOL Andre, you know what they'll end up saying... "We cannot provide information about software before the release date"... seems to be the number 1 line from manufacturers at the moment ;o)
-- Zack Whittaker Microsoft Beta (Windows Server R2 Beta Mentor) » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: http://msblog.resdev.net » ZackNET Forum: www.zacknet.co.uk/forum » VistaBase: www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that one!
--- Original message follows --- "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message Sounds like a driver compatibility with Vista. Have you contacted Adaptec to find out about their Vista strategy if they plan on at least releasing beta drivers for existing devices or at least the final build of Windows Vista? Also find out if they are working with Microsoft on hardware detection and if this will be available in a future build of Windows Vista. -- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm

There does not have to be a need to replace hardware. It is not so much the hardware is old, it is more the need to upgrade the OS. And with that, many don't need to, they just want to. Before upgrading anything, especially an OS, people need to thoroughly examine the consequences. For the most part, they can avoid problems with a little patience.
Very few would dispute there is a time when it is no longer practical to support older hardware and software. It is the time frame that is the issue. Obsolescence is largely a myth created not by the manufacturers but by the buyers demanding the newest...but not in everything thus forcing the change upon themselves. Many of those that complain about hardware incompatible with a new OS often have no need to upgrade other than their need to have the latest OS.
-- Jupiter Jones [MVP] http://www3.telus.net/dandemar http://www.dts-l.org
"Jane Colman" wrote in message

Sometimes I get the feeling that there is a conspiracy amongst manufacturers to not provide drivers for older devices thereby forcing people to go out and buy the latest and greatest device and all in the name of profit..... ;)
Then again, I do get rather annoyed with the expectation that people should go out and buy new products to replace old ones that are working perfectly. Such a waste of resources really. Welcome to the throw-away society. :(

Peter Danner a écrit :

Hi, all
I am not able to make a fresh Installation of build 5308 on an SCSI-system with an Adaptec AHA2940U2W. No devices found!!
Is this a driver problem? Will a suited driver be supplied in final Vista release? On Adaptec Website I could not find anything about this issue.
So how to proceed?
I do not understand this problem, because on virtual maschines, there seems not to be a problem using SCSI Controllers.
Thank you for your help,
Peter

Did you try this: when you are in the screen where you select the hard disk where you want to install Vista, "Load driver", and give your WinXP or Win2003 (better) driver for your card, then click Refresh? If it doesn't work, press Shift-F10, it will open a command-line box, go where you have your win2003 driver for your scsi card, then type "drvload yourdriver.inf". It should say the driver has been loaded, then click Refresh, and your SCSI disk(s) should appear. It worked for me for my SATA RAID controller.
Christophe

Ooooh... I never thought of it that way, but I guess that would work though wouldn't it :-o Sneaky!
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--- Original message follows --- "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message

Correct. But of course, you have to take into account that they love to put end of life support on such products just to get existing users to upgrade to the latest. -- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote in message Perhaps, but customers asking may get them working on it. And since the hardware manufacturers are responsible for drivers, contacting them is the correct start.
-- Jupiter Jones [MVP] http://www3.telus.net/dandemar http://www.dts-l.org
"Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" wrote in message LOL Andre, you know what they'll end up saying... "We cannot provide information about software before the release date"... seems to be the number 1 line from manufacturers at the moment ;o)
-- Zack Whittaker Microsoft Beta (Windows Server R2 Beta Mentor) » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: http://msblog.resdev.net » ZackNET Forum: www.zacknet.co.uk/forum » VistaBase: www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that one!
--- Original message follows --- "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message Sounds like a driver compatibility with Vista. Have you contacted Adaptec to find out about their Vista strategy if they plan on at least releasing beta drivers for existing devices or at least the final build of Windows Vista? Also find out if they are working with Microsoft on hardware detection and if this will be available in a future build of Windows Vista. -- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm

Did you try this: when you are in the screen where you select the hard disk where you want to install Vista, "Load driver", and give your WinXP or Win2003 (better) driver for your card, then click Refresh? If it doesn't work, press Shift-F10, it will open a command-line box, go where you have your win2003 driver for your scsi card, then type "drvload yourdriver.inf". It should say the driver has been loaded, then click Refresh, and your SCSI disk(s) should appear. It worked for me for my SATA RAID controller.

That was the fact! I supposed that the controller is young enough, and vista should bring a actual driver along. Wrong. I did not try the simplest way (because of the new driver generation and so on), but nevertheless this did it. I took the driver from XP and was able to see the devices and to install the OS.
Now I will observe the behaviour either the peformance is ok or not, but seems to be no problem yet.
Thanks, Pete